Interview mit Nina Munzke und Nikolaus Lemmertz (KIT): Speicher sind ausgereift

Die beiden Ingenieure Nina Munzke und Nikolaus Lemmertz arbeiten am Batterietechnikum des Karls­ru­her Instituts für Technologie (KIT). Munzke ist Gruppenleiterin für Systemsteuerung und -analyse und befasst sich mit der Effizienz von Speichersystemen. Lemmertz ist Gruppenleiter für Systemtechnik und hat die Sicherheit der Geräte im Fokus. Die Solarthemen sprachen mit ihnen über die von ihnen beobacheten Entwicklungen bei Stromspeichern.

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