Interview mit Thorsten Herdan (BMWi): Förderung neu denken

Solarthemen 429. Thorsten Herdan ist neuer Abteilungsleiter für „Energiepolitik: Wärme und Effizienz“ im Bundesministerium für Wirtschaft und Energie. Bis vor zwei Monaten war er Geschäftsführer im Verband Deutscher Maschinen- und Anlagenbau. Ganzheitlich Denken nennt er als Devise, um Effizienz zur zweiten Säule der Energiewende zu machen und Erneuerbare im Wärmebereich stärker zu profilieren. Neue Finanzierungsinstrumente könnten eine Rolle spielen.

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