Interview mit Dirk Uwe Sauer: Förderung hilft der Speicher-Entwicklung

Solarthemen 468.Dirk Uwe Sauer ist Professor an der RWTH Aachen und hat den Lehrstuhl für Elektrochemische Energiewandlung und Speichersystemtechniken. Er befasst sich seit mehr als zwei Jahrzehnten mit Batteriespeicher und leitet die an der RWTH angesiedelte Begleitforschung zum Speicherförderprogramm des Bundes. Die Solarthemen sprachen mit ihm über den Sinn und die Ergebnisse des Förderprogramms.

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