Interview mit Reiner Priggen: Kohleausstieg wird jetzt konkreter

Solarthemen 511. Reiner Priggen ist Mitglied der Kohlekommission. Als Grünen-Politiker war er Mitglied im Koalitionsausschuss aller vier rot-grünen Landesregierungen von Nordrhein-Westfalen. Als Parteivorsitzender (1994-2000), Landtagsabgeordneter (2000-2017), energiepolitischer Sprecher und Fraktionschef gestaltete er die Energiepolitik des Landes entscheidend mit. Seit 2017 ist Priggen im Ruhestand ehrenamtlicher Vorsitzender des Landesverbandes Erneuerbare Energien LEE NRW.

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