Interview mit Urban Windelen: Speicher sind Speicher!
Foto: BVES Solarthemen 512. Urban Windelen ist Geschäftsführer des Bundesverbandes Energiespeicher e.V. (BVES). In einem Thesenpapier zum Energiesystem des Jahres 2030 hat der Verband jüngst beschrieben, nach welchen grundlegenden Prinzipien sich Energiespeicher in ein zunehmend auf erneuerbaren Energien beruhendes System integrieren werden und welche gesetzlichen Regeln dafür gelten sollten.
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