Matthias Sandrock in Interview: Solarthermie lohnt sich

Dr. Matthias Sandrock, Dezember 2014. Foto / © Sabine Vielmo Nutzungsrechte Bildmaterial nach Vereinbarung.
Dr. Matthias Sandrock ist Partner des Hamburg Instituts. Zuvor hat er sich als Referatsleiter in der Landesverwaltung von Hamburg mit kommunaler Energiepolitik und erneuerbaren Energien befasst. Zurzeit arbeitet er auch im Rahmen von Forschungsprojekten an der Integration von Solarwärme in die Fernwärmeversorung. Wir sprachen mit ihm über die KWK-Gesetzes-Novelle.

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